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Beitrag Nr. 21
9. Aine 10, 17:25

beagel
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Lied von Eis und Feuer ist mit Vorsicht zu genieen. Von Anfang an ist es langweiliger als WOT in den schlechtesten Zeiten, nur fllt das einem nicht so schnell auf. Es steckt voll Gorn, Narm, die Charaktere werfen sich andauernd den IdiotBall zu, usw. Jaime z.B. ist ein Vorzeige-Emo und KarmaHoudini. Ist aber alles Auslegungssache.
Ich finde es weitaus merkwrdiger wenn man Chtulhu nicht kennt, da der Mythos wirklich berall drinsteckt.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu-Mythos

Wenn man "realistisch" abstimmen wrde, wrden am Ende nur Leute wie Gandalf, Rand, Cthulhu, Aslan, Raistlin und Polgara brigbleiben, die sind nmlich einfach Gewalten des Kosmos/Schpfung/usw.

ps.:Wer sich fragt wo die ganzen merkwrdigen Worte in meinem Post herkommen: hier
Aber Vorsicht: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife
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Light help us! Light help the world! He lies in the snow and cries like the thunder! He burns like the sun!

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Beitrag Nr. 22
10. Aine 10, 11:40

Nebelleuchte
Rang: Jumara

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Langweilig? Hm. Weniger actionreich, ja, das schon, aber "langweilig"wrde ich das nicht nennen.
Und wenn ich an Band 27/28 denke - entschuldige, aber selbst das deste Kapitel vom Lied ist um einiges besser als das.
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Manchmal tu ich so, als wre ich normal. Aber dann wird mir langweilig und ich bin wieder ich selbst.

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Beitrag Nr. 23
10. Aine 10, 16:00

Iscoron
Rang: Saurer Hering

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Immer schn beim Thema bleiben ;)

Ihr knnt gerne dafr einen eigenen Thread aufmachen.

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He came like the wind, like the wind touched everything, and like the wind was gone. - Robert Jordan

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Beitrag Nr. 24
11. Aine 10, 12:52

beagel
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Ich hab ja extra geschrieben das alles Auslegungssache ist, daher muss man darber nicht groartig diskutieren, ich habe das schon mit Mitbewohnern und Freunden hinter mir :-)
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Light help us! Light help the world! He lies in the snow and cries like the thunder! He burns like the sun!

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Beitrag Nr. 25
12. Aine 10, 15:47

AracheonoXis
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Beagel???

Von Anfang an ist es langweiliger als WOT in den schlechtesten Zeiten, nur fllt das einem nicht so schnell auf.


Das kann nicht dein Ernst sein.
Endloses Rckeglattstreichen, Stirnrunzeln und Getuschel und kapitellanges Tpfeschrubben soll spannender sein als Eis und Feuer?

Wie dem auch sei, ich bin noch unentschlossen, wem von beiden Charakteren ich den Vorzug gebe.
Allerdings glaube ich nicht, dass es auf meine eine Stimme ankommt.

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Beitrag Nr. 26
12. Aine 10, 17:25

Enigma
Rang: Lord

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Ok Endspurt, Rand ist hinten also los Leute und sagt Nebel nichts.
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Beitrag Nr. 27
12. Aine 10, 17:30

Nebelleuchte
Rang: Jumara

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Ja, los Leute und sagt Nebel nichts :D

*schn sein Kreuzchen an der richtigen Stelle macht* ^^
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Manchmal tu ich so, als wre ich normal. Aber dann wird mir langweilig und ich bin wieder ich selbst.

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Beitrag Nr. 28
13. Aine 10, 20:06

Iscoron
Rang: Saurer Hering

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51% fr Rand, das wird ein ganz knappes Ergebnis, wenn das so weitergeht.

Also, AracheonoXis, vielleicht kommt es doch auf dich an?

Und Nebelleuchte: Ich degradier dich vom Jumara zur Biteme, wenn du das versaust ;)

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He came like the wind, like the wind touched everything, and like the wind was gone. - Robert Jordan

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Beitrag Nr. 29
14. Aine 10, 08:19

Barid Cham Aellinsar
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Das sagt Brandon Sanderson zu dem Kampf:
All right, since George Martin has been such a terribly good sport about the cage match, I figured I should step up and do likewise.

Before I start, though, I should say that dont feel right writing in Rands viewpoint. I feel only Mr. Jordan could have done that in this situation. To write from Rands viewpoint would be to take one step toward appropriating Mr. Jordans characters as my own, which is a line I do not want to cross. I realize it probably sounds like a foolish distinction, but I do not want to begin thinking that I can do anything I want with these characters.

Perhaps later I will decide to do some kind of write-up from one of my own characters, but for now, well go with this.

Now, it looks like Jaime and Tyrion tricked Rand into coming onto THEIR turf, without help, to face them. Um. Okay. Thats why I get for going away to a convention over the weekend and not paying attention. But really, Rand? On THEIR turf? Blast.

That makes things more difficult. Or does it? Arguments for Rand winning are below.

POINT ONE: Rand bends fate.

Mythology in the Wheel of Time universe indicates that all worlds are part of a potential multiverse, with infinite possibilities existing as shadows of one another. That means its credible to assume that ASoIaF and WoT take place within the realm of the same multiverse. (Okay, thats probably a given, since if Rand and Jaime are going to fight in the first place.)

So why make a point of it? Because of this: Rands taveren nature should STILL WORK. After all, Jaime himself implies that Rand will still have balefirewhich means he can draw upon the One Power while in the AsoIaF world. So this is all part of the Pattern.

Rand being taveren means that fate bends around him. The fabric of the universe wants him to survive this battle, otherwise the world (in fact, the multiverse itself) might end.

Now, Jaime (with Tyrion helping him) is clever, devious, and even brilliant. But if fate itself wants Rand to win, hes going to have real trouble.

POINT TWO: Rand is virtually a demigod.

At this point in the Wheel of Time chronology, Rand has grown in skill, power, and ability to the point that he could be considered akin to a deity. In the last book he quite held enough power in his hands that, by his estimation, he could have destroyed an entire world, and maybe creation itself.

GRRMs charactersJaime and Tyrion includedhave a lot of things going for them, but in the end theyre mere mortals. Rand will go into this battle wrapped in weaves of the One Power. Hell be able to kill at the blink of an eye. Assuming George doesnt reach into the Wild Cards universe or something like that for Jaimes helpers (which he might do) his characters will be left without much in the way of super powers.

Rand begins by opening a gateway, ducking through to a safe location, then turns and lets loose with enough firepower to level New York.

POINT THREE: All of Rands friends will come anyway.

Yes, Rand said hell do this on his own. But really, hes been doing that sort of thing for twelve books now, and when has anyone ever listened? I figure that all of his friends will do what they usually do and ignore him.

Mat will sneak through a gateway early and get Tyrion raving drunk so that he cant help out. (And hell try his best to do the same for Jaime.)

Nynaeve and Elayne will come to help, ready to use the One Power to protect Rand from his own wool-headedness. Perrin will come to fight, as will Aviendha, ready to fight at Rands side whether he wants it or not. And well throw Logain into the mix to facilitate a circle.

I figure that at some pointmaybe even from the get-goRand will be set up in a Circle with Nynaeve, Avi, Elayne, and Logain. There will be enough energy level an army or twenty.

And finally, since Im allowed, Ill bring Hoid along. Hell be watching from the crowd. And hes not likely to let Rand lose.

POINT FOUR: Whos more fragile?

My final point is probably the most important here. Rand and Jaime actually have a surprising number of things in common, down to their missing hands. But one thing is very different. Jaime is in the hands of George R. R. Martina genius writer known for making you fall in love with his characters, then killing them in brutal ways.

Thats right, Im playing my ace in the hole, also known as the meta-game card.

People started out hating Jaime, but now hes grown strikingly sympathetic. That means hes toast. Tell me, you GRRM fans. Do you REALLY think Jaime is going to survive the next few ASoIaF books? Ask yourselves, deep in your hearts, who is more fragile?

Lets look at the next books in the respective series. Things seem good for Rand. Hes got to get to the Last Battlewhere, admittedly, his life will be in real danger. But chances are low that hell die in the penultimate book without facing his destiny at Tarmon Gaidon. (No promises, of course, about TOWERS OF MIDNIGHT. Im just speaking from the general momentum of the previous books.)

What about Jaime? Any ultimate destiny there? How many times have you been reading a GRRM book, thinking, Theres no way HE will die, only to find his blood splattered on the walls in the very next chapter?

Jaime lives in a brutal, brutal world. I think Rands got to win this one by default. Heck, its really more of a compliment to Mr. Martin to make sure that Jaime is killed in a wickedly cool, gut-wrenching, horrible way.

- Brandon Sanderson

Quelle: http://www.dragonmount.com/News/?p=1233
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Beitrag Nr. 30
14. Aine 10, 12:04

Joar Addam
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"Heck, its really more of a compliment to Mr. Martin to make sure that Jaime is killed in a wickedly cool, gut-wrenching, horrible way."

So true...
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Let Darkness receive my every breath, with her own - Let our lives speak in answer unto death, never alone

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